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The other one is Open Holdem but that's more for programmer-geek types and does better at fixed limit games. In my personal opinion, id rather 'teach' the bot how to play myself rather than blindly trusting my money with someone elses bot I cant directly answer your question given that its not exactly a poker bot but rather a 'poker bot creator' but i can tell you this: the main advantages are, unlimited patience, percent strictness, perfect mathematics, and in the case of sagittarius abz it has a 'player type database' feature which allows you to play differently against different players, you can also see statistics based on each single decision taken and whether it was profitable over a series of games so you can keep tweaking your bot and improving it over time. Bots are not good at determining opponent strategy and adjusting their play for that. Some rooms use poker AI to play near zero games to create games and generate rake from real players. The bot wouldn't "know" it was sporting a tilting player, but it could identify the patterns of events around a tilting player and adjust to them accordingly. No-Limit Hold'em? Bots also have a very hard time on site where players can regularly change their screen names As of Aug , the best poker bot that proved to win some of the best poker players in the world is the Pluribus made by Noam Brown and Tuomas Sandholm. Of course, newbies are losing money against not only bots : Comment: Marketing around Shanky makes me laugh all days. They likely can grind out a profit, albeit not a large one. Limit Hold'em is pretty much fully "solved" and the best bot can play basically as well as the best Limit Hold'em players in the world. Personally I would welcome bots at my table as it gives me an edge but it depends on your point of view. PokerSnowie is a training tool, not a bot. Capable of winning: I've been using sagittarius abz for quite some time now on pokerstars. Now I saw that. These are built using neural networks as well. As for online poker bots actually playing, and avoiding detection, on PokerStars for instance I'm not sure. Humans do this all the time, even unconsciously. Brent Morrow Brent Morrow 1, 10 10 silver badges 16 16 bronze badges. Moreover, beating bots is not a problem for advanced players. There is this new software, Sagittarius ABZ which allows you to create your own strategy, as in you tell it how to play yourself! Cash games are tougher these days, with or without a bot. I would question in what capacity I could participate "in the business" - knowing nothing about me, what do you think I could contribute? Lol, so, exactly what I said in the first sentences of my response then? Bots will only get better, is this a problem for online poker yet? Bots can't react to changing game conditions or individual player anomalies like someone being on tilt but they make up for it in other ways, such as discipline, stability, and longevity. But if you want to participate in the business, you are welcome! Sign up to join this community. Believe me, guys that make money using real winning oker AI will never share their products but will earn money on poker rooms attracting new partners to the business. Bots can probably win only at small stakes if at all since the best players are not playing at small stake tables. I don't think online poker bots are a huge problem yet. The combinatorial explosion of possible game states is way too big And that is not just for today's machine: unless major discoveries are made in AI there's simply no way No-Limit Hold'em are able to compete with good players. Fred Jewell Fred Jewell 19 1 1 bronze badge. BTW, you must understand that if the business has profit, it cannot be easily forbidden. They published a paper in one of the most prestige journals in the world - Scince. Asked 6 years, 2 months ago. Problem for online poker yet? Of course, newbies are losing money against not only bots :. Active Oldest Votes. As far as I know this is the only real commercial poker bot available, the only one an average person can use effectively. You can play against a PokerSnowie bot, but you cannot make PokerSnowie play in your place at a real online poker table. The big winners are the poker sites. If the answer is capital, then it would seem odd that you'd canvas for investment on a fairly low-traffic SE site and I'd have the question the legitimacy of that business{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Regarding cheating: yes, it is considering cheating and PokerStars, for example, actively chases bots and confiscates any fund found on botters' account. Home Questions Tags Users Unanswered. Viewed 88k times. It is really the big picture that counts, how much money you are left with after subtracting your losses from your profits. Sorry, my bad! An appropriately trained neural network could absolutely detect and adjust to things like a player tilting. I am still 'testing' it on 0. Certain Vegas casinos are also offering limit Hold'em machines where you can play against AI. On the other hand, bots do not lose patience and do not go on a tilt! Ask Question. Glorfindel 1 1 gold badge 2 2 silver badges 11 11 bronze badges. From what I've heard and read, one of the most advanced poker bots is PokerSnowie , an artificial intelligence built using a neural network. In theory, the best bot possible will manage to play all its winning hands until showdown, and fold all its losing hands before losing too much money. That's what most of the players who have it use it for. How good: I cant directly answer your question given that its not exactly a poker bot but rather a 'poker bot creator' but i can tell you this: the main advantages are, unlimited patience, percent strictness, perfect mathematics, and in the case of sagittarius abz it has a 'player type database' feature which allows you to play differently against different players, you can also see statistics based on each single decision taken and whether it was profitable over a series of games so you can keep tweaking your bot and improving it over time. Brian Brian 19 1 1 bronze badge. It's efficient at stack management and obeying the preset standards of when it's time to start pushing aggressively. How good are the best poker bots? The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. And of course it's considered cheating. Any poker bot not based on a neural network is liking just playing a static maximally exploitative strategy vs. Is it considered cheating? But some Shanky bot users do well in them. Saggitarius and other bot products are based on Shanky or Open Holdem. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Poker Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for serious players and enthusiasts of poker. The Shanky Technologies Holdem Bot is probably as good as they are likely to get. They'll allow software that helps you make better decisions, but anything that acts for you generally isn't allowed. So it all boils down to how many hours you play a day and how much you multi-table because a person playing on 8 tables for 48 hours is definitely a bot! Comment: Marketing around Shanky makes me laugh all days. So Humans have an edge over bots, especially the good players. There are a few hard core reg botters that grind a small profit by probably working just as hard as any player showing a profit. Playing poker using bots is cheating. And is it considered cheating and is there ways to detect them? I've been using sagittarius abz for quite some time now on pokerstars. Yes it is considered as cheating. It's fairly easy to detect them and PokerStars is quite diligent in that regard. This will not be a problem even if there are many bots around as poker is what it is, gambling. Mark Grinder Mark Grinder 29 6 6 bronze badges. If you are interested in the facts just for fun, I cannot help. There may be a few bots at the lower stakes on the poker sites which do not heavily track them able to grind some money, but there's no way a No-Limit Hold'em bot is winning a major tournament any time soon. What stakes are the best computer programmed bots currently capable of winning at? There are many ways to detect bots, mouse movements, previously detected bots running processes blacklisted bots , randomly misplaced pixels to confuse the bot, similar game-play patterns pre-programmed bots , and more, however the truth is a well programmed 'stealth bot' such as the one i use, its almost impossible to detect unless you hack the PC running the bot! Poker stars because of their policy actually have the best bots and botters on their site. It would be good to see some facts or supporting evidence to back up some of the things in this answer, especially the first bullet point. There is no pot of gold in botting , but for some is it a fun distraction from mundane playing for hours and hours just the break even. Using "friendly" bots in poker rooms is a nature of poker boom supporting. That's only being used in training software though. He then won contracts with some of the Vegas casinos for LHE machines. The guys botting on there know how to stealth and program better than the commercial bots. Once a computer program is taking actions for you, most poker sites consider it cheating. Active 2 years, 10 months ago. It only takes a minute to sign up. BTW, there are a lot of newbies that cry about money lost in playing with "bots".